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Command & Control: A Security Podcast
Fortinet Accelerate 2025 Recap with Liquid Networks
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In this episode, Kelly Young welcomes Christian Graham of Liquid Networks and LeeAnn Larson from XenTegra to talk about their collaboration and experience at Fortinet Accelerate 2025. The discussion dives into:
- Christian’s journey toward Fortinet’s FCX certification and preparing for the Ultimate Fabric Challenge at Accelerate.
- Insights into the Fortinet partner community, and how it fosters technical growth and camaraderie.
- How Liquid Networks and XenTegra bring a security-first, client-centric mindset to every engagement.
- Real-world use cases that showcase the power of Fortinet’s platform, especially in zero trust, API integration, and managed services.
- Why community, technical excellence, and partnership are central to driving client outcomes.
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<v Kelly Young>OK, great.
Hello and thank you for listening to</v>
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<v Kelly Young>another Zentegra podcast. I'm your host,
Kelly Young,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>and today we're highlighting Fortinet's
Accelerate 2025 with our partner Liquid</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Networks.
I'm joined today by Christian Graham from</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Liquid Networks and Leanne Larson from
Zentegra.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Hi, Christian and Leanne.
Welcome and how are you both doing today?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Hey, doing well,
as my boss Andrew would say,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Glad to hear. Glad to hear. How are you,
Leanne?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>living the dream.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Oh, I am fabulous as always, Sir.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>You're always even keeled.
That's good to hear. Well, that's great.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>And again, thank you for joining.
Let me start with our first guest,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Christian.
And Christian's a Senior Network Engineer</v>
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<v Kelly Young>with Liquid Networks.
He holds the Fortinet Specialist and now</v>
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<v Kelly Young>the Fortinet Expert Exam cert.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>And as if that wasn't enough,
Christian is fresh off attending the</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Fortinet Accelerate in April,
where he finished third in the Fortinet</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Ultimate Fabric Challenge.
Congratulations, Christian.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>That's quite an accomplishment.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Thanks. Thanks.
I'm gonna keep you honest a little bit</v>
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<v Kelly Young>OK.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>there. I've got the the FCX exam,
but I don't have the lab yet,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>so I don't quite have the cert.
But I did pass the exam earlier this year</v>
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<v Christian Graham>and I'm looking forward to taking the lab
later.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Oh, fantastic. Well, that's good to hear.
Hey,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I don't know if there's enough power to
fire up that lab right now,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>And that lab is a monster.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>so they may be a while before they invite
you. There you go.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>So Leanne is a Solutions Senior Security
Solutions Architect here at Zentegra and</v>
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<v Kelly Young>holds the Fortinet FCSS and.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Work Security.
She's a certified ethical hacker and has</v>
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<v Kelly Young>her Cisco CCNA,
so that's pretty well done. Also, Leanne,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>thank you.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Oh, thank you, Sir.
I don't have the fortitude nor the time</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>right now to be like, you know,
Christian and the big guys and studying</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>for that nine hour FCX exam. But you know,
huge round of applause to all you former</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>NSC eights now FCX is out there.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Oh, good to hear, man. Good to hear. Hey,
look, I'm impressed.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Anybody that gets up past the 567
category,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>that's that's quite a bit of work.
And you know,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>congratulations to both of you. So, hey,
Christian, let's talk about your.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah, thanks.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Your time at Accelerate.
Tell me a little bit about what you</v>
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<v Kelly Young>enjoyed most and what was it like
competing?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah. So it was a little nuts for me.
I had some travel issues and I ended up</v>
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<v Christian Graham>landing about an hour before the
competition started.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>So I'm still kind of on the fence,
whether that was a bane or boon at this</v>
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<v Christian Graham>point, because on one hand,
my stress could not have been any higher</v>
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<v Christian Graham>leading up to that and there was no.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Lag. But on the other hand,
I didn't have any chance to get my feet</v>
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<v Christian Graham>on the ground before I jumped right in.
But yeah, we I landed.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>I got to the Convention Center about 30
minutes before the competition started,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>and then I jumped right in.
I didn't even have time to get my jersey.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>But no, it was a blast.
I've done the UFC a couple of times.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>We do it internally at Liquid to
determine who's gonna go try out at</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Accelerate. And my first year at Liquid,
I I qualified to go to Nashville and do</v>
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<v Christian Graham>it. And then last year, of course,
it was Vegas.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>And then this year I qualified again to
go to Orlando.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>I'm looking forward to that one as well.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>I will see you there, Sir.
Was this your first time traveling</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Wow.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>internationally?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>It was. Um,
my wife and I were actually planning on</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Oh goodness, you started off with a bang.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>going to Greece this year. Absolutely. Uh,
my wife and I are going to Greece this</v>
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<v Christian Graham>year,
so we were looking forward to that being</v>
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<v Christian Graham>our, uh, first trip together,
but it looks like I was able to go first.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Oh, that's so wonderful, though.
That must have been so crazy to meet all</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>those other engineers and architects from
all over the world and, you know,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>see people from like APAC and stuff.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Absolutely. Um,
I've got a little bit of a baby face.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>So talking to some of the guys,
they were like, uh,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>thinking I was like 2122 and I'd come out
there and then, uh,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>they were pretty surprised to find out
that I was, uh, in my 30s. So it's always,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>I was too, Sir. So yeah, no, trust me,
I was a bit surprised in Nashville.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>uh, fun to get young.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>That shock is real.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Wow. Well, that's quite a story. I mean,
to fly in,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>have trouble with your flight and then
get little or no time to kind of gather</v>
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<v Kelly Young>yourself and roll right into the to the
event. I mean, that's, yeah.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Right into the meat grinder.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Congrats again. That's, yeah.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>So, so tell me,
after going through it all and and I'm</v>
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<v Kelly Young>sure you have your own secret preparation
techniques,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>what what advice would you give someone
else who's interested in competing?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah,
so one of the big things is you have to</v>
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<v Christian Graham>work for a Fortinet partner to do it.
You can't do it.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>It's just a customer or even the
engineers.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>I don't get to compete at the UFC and
accelerator experts,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>but one of the big things is.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>You have to know how to manage your time,
which is a lot like engineering in the</v>
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<v Christian Graham>real world is if you spend all of your
time on the tasks at the beginning of the</v>
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<v Christian Graham>the competition,
you're going to get kind of caught up</v>
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<v Christian Graham>towards the end because they do reward
you a lot for being the first to complete</v>
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<v Christian Graham>objectives.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>So when it came down to the end of it,
Jesse ****,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>who had actually beat me in the Las Vegas
Accelerate or Experts last year,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>he finished way before me,
but I had managed to get a bunch of bonus</v>
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<v Christian Graham>points going through and knocking out the
Sassy 4 to manager section.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>So even though I finished after.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Because I had gone forward and completed
this objectives,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>I was able to inch ahead of him towards
the end.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Wow, that is simple.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>And that was honestly edge of my seat
watching. It really was because, you know,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>It like.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>for those of us who are, you know,
level 11 nerds, this,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>this was live streamed here in the States.
And we did have a micro watch party here</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>at Sintegra. We don't have a huge.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>In-house team,
but I did rope Kelly in for a bit as well</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>as a few other team members and that was
really great to watch when Jesse was just</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>kind of sitting back because he was
already done and just watch her points</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>creeping up and up and up and I was like,
yay, Christian.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah, it was really cool.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah, it looks.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>It was intense. Um,
it was interesting because a lot of the</v>
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<v Christian Graham>other ones you haven't been able to
finish the objectives with a lot of time</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Mhm.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>left. Um, but this one, um,
we were able to do that,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>so it created some interesting
opportunities.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah,
the the looks on some of the competitors</v>
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<v Kelly Young>faces, I just,
I I was glad I was a spectator.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Let's put it that way. Well, great stuff,
man.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>So let the let the competition beware for
next year. So we've thrown that out there.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Well, fantastic.
But let's pivot to some of the</v>
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<v Kelly Young>announcements from Accelerate, I know.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>They talked a little bit about a number
of things. Forti SASE is one of them.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Christian, you have some pretty real,
real world experience turning up</v>
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<v Kelly Young>customers.
Have you seen an increase in adoption in</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Absolutely. Since experts of last year,
I would say probably 1/3 to 1/2 of my</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Forti SASE?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>projects I do now are Fortisassy,
where I didn't do a whole lot of it</v>
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<v Christian Graham>before that.
I've done some huge projects too.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>I think the largest one I've done was
about 15,000 seats, so quite a few people.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>especially in really big environments,
are turning to it.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Um I think the reason we're seeing these
bigger people move towards it is because</v>
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<v Christian Graham>it's it's a lot easier to set up than
Sassy,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>and there's a lot less overhead when it
comes to actually managing the VPN.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Wow, that's a huge deployment. What?
What do you feel like the end user</v>
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<v Kelly Young>experience is for them onboarding,
you know,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>new users that might have been using just
VPN into a Forti gate or something like</v>
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<v Kelly Young>that? How do you, you know,
compare the two?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah.
So it kind of depends on what your</v>
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<v Christian Graham>environment looked like before.
In this case, we were really,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>it was really convenient that they were
already on EMS.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>So it's just a matter of running a script
that re-registered them from their</v>
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<v Christian Graham>internal EMS to Fortisassy and then they
had to update their client and they were</v>
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<v Christian Graham>good to go. It was.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Really smooth operation.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Wow, that's good to know.
I mean that's that's really for anyone</v>
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<v Kelly Young>who's considering you know that migration
and knowing that it if they already have</v>
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<v Kelly Young>EMS that makes it that much easier.
That's that's great information.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I know you know Fortinet is continuing to
develop the product and recently</v>
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<v Kelly Young>announced.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Few things client lists,
ZTNA for non managed clients.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>So I think that that's a big deal for
customers that might have you know other</v>
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<v Kelly Young>vendors or contractors working for their,
you know doing work for them and they</v>
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<v Kelly Young>need access.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I believe they also now offer browser
isolation for addressing security.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>They're staying competitive with that.
Honestly,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>it was really good to see that included.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. For what?
I guess uncategorized websites and things</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>like that.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>The remote browser. Yeah, go ahead,
Christian.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah, it's.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>I was just going to say it's a really
cool feature. I mean,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>because you can train the end user all
the time.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>But these kinds of things make me think
of something I read from a park Ranger</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/3663-3
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<v Christian Graham>saying that the overlap of intelligence
between the dumbest tourists and the</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/3663-4
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<v Christian Graham>smartest bears is a lot wider than you'd
think. So.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Making security easy is the best thing
you can do aside from training your end</v>
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<v Christian Graham>users,
and so browser isolation really takes</v>
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<v Christian Graham>away a lot of the risk of them clicking
on risky links and things of that nature.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Oh, very cool. That's great.
That's great information.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Your your experience is really showing
through here.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I guess the 40 branch Sassy to steer thin
client locations into Sassy that that</v>
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<v Kelly Young>seems like a new something or or a new
feature that's been recently released.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah,
that's been really awesome for a couple</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Mhm.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>of our clients.
We have one that they run like a travel</v>
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<v Christian Graham>agency and they have a lot of like small
remote offices where they might have 3 or</v>
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<v Christian Graham>4 users out there.
It's not really worth it for them to set</v>
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00:10:06.131 --> 00:10:09.697
<v Christian Graham>up a whole Forti gate and bring them into
an SD Wan configuration.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>So they just ship out an AP to these
sites and.</v>
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00:10:12.291 --> 00:10:17.762
<v Christian Graham>And they have it report back to SASE and
they control all the Internet access from</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Oh, very cool. Yeah,
that's that's a great feature. I mean,</v>
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00:10:17.762 --> 00:10:18.091
<v Christian Graham>SASE.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>and it does give a lot of flexibilities.
Leanne and I work with customers all the</v>
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<v Kelly Young>time that say, hey, you know,
I've got a small little deployment.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>In some cases there's just a couple of
people at the office and you know,</v>
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00:10:32.061 --> 00:10:35.945
<v Kelly Young>maybe they're not there all the time.
So thin client definitely makes sense</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/3845-5
00:10:35.945 --> 00:10:36.251
<v Kelly Young>there.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>And then I think, yeah,
that's some of the announcements for</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Forti SASE.
Let's move on to some other announcements</v>
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<v Kelly Young>from Accelerate.
I know I didn't catch Kenzie when he</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/3908-3
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<v Kelly Young>spoke,
but I I reviewed some of his recordings</v>
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<v Kelly Young>and he explained that, you know,
Fortinet continues to hold about 50.</v>
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00:10:57.571 --> 00:11:03.473
<v Kelly Young>5% of the security networking market and
shipping more than the next competitor</v>
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00:11:03.473 --> 00:11:09.152
<v Kelly Young>like 20 times over as far as shipments.
And that's an amazing stat because I</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/3949-2
00:11:09.152 --> 00:11:14.685
<v Kelly Young>remember when I was at Fortinet,
you know so many customers that just they</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/3949-3
00:11:14.685 --> 00:11:16.971
<v Kelly Young>buy Fortinet and they wait for.</v>
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00:11:17.451 --> 00:11:20.264
<v Kelly Young>You know,
time for the end of life and just replace</v>
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<v Kelly Young>it with the next generation, right?
And it's an easy migration.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>They love the product,
they love the security. They get there.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Ken went on to say that, you know,
they're going to continue their sustained</v>
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00:11:31.299 --> 00:11:35.734
<v Kelly Young>organic development, you know, of course,
40 OS and sticking with their tradition</v>
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00:11:35.734 --> 00:11:36.491
<v Kelly Young>of developing.</v>
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00:11:37.011 --> 00:11:41.335
<v Kelly Young>Basics, the content processors,
network processors and security</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4025-1
00:11:41.335 --> 00:11:46.200
<v Kelly Young>processors that give Fortagate a huge
advantage in performance over the</v>
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00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.172
<v Kelly Young>competition.
So that's that's good to hear.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>You know also don't go ahead.</v>
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00:11:50.331 --> 00:11:53.480
<v Christian Graham>Yeah, it's yeah,
it's a it's really exciting to hear.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4031-0
00:11:52.211 --> 00:11:54.371
<v Kelly Young>Are you considered concerned?</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4071-1
00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:58.029
<v Christian Graham>I kind of feel like I'm at the Crest of a
big wave and it's only going to get</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4071-2
00:11:58.029 --> 00:12:00.653
<v Christian Graham>bigger.
It's really interesting as kind of a</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4071-3
00:12:00.653 --> 00:12:03.685
<v Christian Graham>younger network engineer because a lot of
the guys,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4071-4
00:12:03.685 --> 00:12:08.234
<v Christian Graham>they all talk about Cisco and the CCNA,
but I mean Cisco even fell out of the</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4071-5
00:12:08.234 --> 00:12:09.691
<v Christian Graham>leaders quadrant on some.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4125-0
00:12:09.891 --> 00:12:14.816
<v Christian Graham>Some of the I'm forgetting the name,
the Gartner squares. Yep, it came to me.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4083-0
00:12:14.291 --> 00:12:16.811
<v LeeAnn Larson>Gartner, yeah.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4125-1
00:12:14.816 --> 00:12:19.614
<v Christian Graham>It just took me a second. But yeah,
so they fell out the leaders in some of</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4093-0
00:12:18.531 --> 00:12:19.051
<v LeeAnn Larson>No, you're good.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4125-2
00:12:19.614 --> 00:12:24.601
<v Christian Graham>the Gartner squares and it was really
interesting to see because really if you</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4125-3
00:12:24.601 --> 00:12:28.704
<v Christian Graham>say I want to do network,
everyone tells you to go get your CCNA</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4125-4
00:12:28.704 --> 00:12:29.651
<v Christian Graham>and maybe that.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4133-0
00:12:29.171 --> 00:12:34.651
<v LeeAnn Larson>I fell victim to that.
I I feel personally assaulted. Yeah, yeah.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4129-0
00:12:29.731 --> 00:12:32.291
<v Christian Graham>Dynamic and as far as the search aren't
changing, but.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4181-0
00:12:33.251 --> 00:12:38.101
<v Christian Graham>But Fortinet's really great to learn on.
That's how I got my start is I've been</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4181-1
00:12:38.101 --> 00:12:41.132
<v Christian Graham>Fortinet from the first day I started
networking.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4181-2
00:12:41.132 --> 00:12:45.800
<v Christian Graham>I just came in from a help desk kind of
position and I just kept bugging the</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4181-3
00:12:45.800 --> 00:12:48.891
<v Christian Graham>network architect until he gave me an
opportunity.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4197-0
00:12:49.011 --> 00:12:52.211
<v Christian Graham>And Fortinet's GUI just really made it
easy to get started.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4197-1
00:12:52.211 --> 00:12:54.985
<v Christian Graham>And if you get excited about these kinds
of things,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4197-2
00:12:54.985 --> 00:12:56.691
<v Christian Graham>it's really easy to go deep too.</v>
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00:12:57.171 --> 00:13:01.659
<v LeeAnn Larson>Yeah, I actually went and got my.
It was an NSC 4 back in the day before I</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4198-0
00:12:57.691 --> 00:12:57.851
<v Kelly Young>Yes.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4246-1
00:13:01.659 --> 00:13:04.771
<v LeeAnn Larson>got my CCNA,
and I honestly feel like it was almost</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4246-2
00:13:04.771 --> 00:13:09.499
<v LeeAnn Larson>more comprehensive and easier to learn
because of the GUI being there compared</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4246-3
00:13:09.499 --> 00:13:12.251
<v LeeAnn Larson>to a CCNA where it's abstract models and
CLI.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4279-0
00:13:13.091 --> 00:13:15.314
<v Christian Graham>Absolutely.
It definitely helps to have the</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4279-1
00:13:15.314 --> 00:13:19.152
<v Christian Graham>fundamentals before going to NAC.
I feel like that is one of the weaknesses</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4279-2
00:13:19.152 --> 00:13:21.880
<v Christian Graham>of the exam,
but if you've already got the networking</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4262-0
00:13:19.571 --> 00:13:20.611
<v LeeAnn Larson>Mm-hmm.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4279-3
00:13:21.880 --> 00:13:24.557
<v Christian Graham>fundamentals,
it's an excellent way to get deep into</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4279-4
00:13:24.557 --> 00:13:25.011
<v Christian Graham>Fortinet.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4315-0
00:13:25.651 --> 00:13:28.871
<v Kelly Young>Yeah, for sure.
I mean at the at at the end of the day,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4277-0
00:13:25.851 --> 00:13:26.811
<v LeeAnn Larson>Really is.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4315-1
00:13:28.871 --> 00:13:33.241
<v Kelly Young>a Forti gate is a router under the covers,
right at the at the heart of it,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4315-2
00:13:33.241 --> 00:13:37.209
<v Kelly Young>it's it's definitely a high speed
networking router and then they've</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4315-3
00:13:37.209 --> 00:13:40.371
<v Kelly Young>overlaid security and everything else
SDWAN and so on.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4346-0
00:13:41.251 --> 00:13:44.165
<v Kelly Young>So yeah,
getting back to announcements then,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4346-1
00:13:44.165 --> 00:13:49.474
<v Kelly Young>I guess they also will be doing the focus
on defensive AI to counter others using</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4346-2
00:13:49.474 --> 00:13:53.035
<v Kelly Young>AI to develop malicious exploits and
things like that.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4346-3
00:13:53.035 --> 00:13:56.531
<v Kelly Young>So I guess you kind of have to what's the
old saying?</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4385-0
00:13:56.691 --> 00:14:04.134
<v Kelly Young>Steel sharpened steel, whatever.
So you you now have to use AI to,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4348-0
00:13:57.131 --> 00:13:59.091
<v LeeAnn Larson>Is that a thief to catch a thief?</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4385-1
00:14:04.134 --> 00:14:12.131
<v Kelly Young>you know, go up. Yes, the guy's using AI.
So it's it's, you know, it's.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4372-0
00:14:05.931 --> 00:14:09.171
<v LeeAnn Larson>Defend against the AI.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4430-0
00:14:10.371 --> 00:14:12.962
<v LeeAnn Larson>Well,
that's not the only application they're</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4430-1
00:14:12.962 --> 00:14:16.285
<v LeeAnn Larson>using it in too.
It's really neat how they've incorporated</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4430-2
00:14:16.285 --> 00:14:18.820
<v LeeAnn Larson>it in.
So you have like the Forta AI chatbot</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4430-3
00:14:18.820 --> 00:14:21.974
<v LeeAnn Larson>that sets Forta Manager on easy mode.
Honestly, though,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4430-4
00:14:21.974 --> 00:14:26.536
<v LeeAnn Larson>it still won't give you the recipe for
the best tacos in any of the labs and the</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4430-5
00:14:26.536 --> 00:14:27.211
<v LeeAnn Larson>fast tracks.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4440-0
00:14:27.771 --> 00:14:31.404
<v LeeAnn Larson>Consider that a formal complaint,
but it might in real life. I don't know.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4440-1
00:14:31.404 --> 00:14:33.971
<v LeeAnn Larson>Someone's got to let me know if that
actually works.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4444-0
00:14:34.291 --> 00:14:35.811
<v Kelly Young>Good to know.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4489-0
00:14:34.531 --> 00:14:38.435
<v Christian Graham>That's really awesome.
One of the coolest things about it is</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4489-1
00:14:38.435 --> 00:14:43.683
<v Christian Graham>being able to generate network diagrams
is like a it's kind of a cute trend going</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4489-2
00:14:43.683 --> 00:14:48.611
<v Christian Graham>around where people would generate
diagrams using ChatGPT image generation a</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4489-3
00:14:48.611 --> 00:14:49.571
<v Christian Graham>few weeks back.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4518-0
00:14:50.691 --> 00:14:54.840
<v Christian Graham>But I was really impressed to see with
border manager they were actually able to</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4518-1
00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.834
<v Christian Graham>generate usable network diagrams that
actually had the information and it was</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4518-2
00:14:58.834 --> 00:15:02.931
<v Christian Graham>in a professional format instead of kind
of these cute clip art kind of things.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4557-0
00:15:03.051 --> 00:15:06.131
<v LeeAnn Larson>Yeah,
and the script generator is so great.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4557-1
00:15:06.131 --> 00:15:09.631
<v LeeAnn Larson>If you're if you don't live in this all
the time,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4557-2
00:15:09.631 --> 00:15:14.111
<v LeeAnn Larson>if you're not hands on keyboard every day,
it is so simplified.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4557-3
00:15:14.111 --> 00:15:18.871
<v LeeAnn Larson>Just to punch everything in,
it generates a script, you drop it in,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4557-4
00:15:18.871 --> 00:15:21.251
<v LeeAnn Larson>it goes, it works, it's beautiful.</v>
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00:15:21.491 --> 00:15:23.882
<v Christian Graham>Yeah, absolutely.
It really takes advantage of Forta</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4606-1
00:15:23.882 --> 00:15:27.536
<v Christian Graham>Manager because Forta Manager also has
kind of these fact checking tools to make</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4606-2
00:15:27.536 --> 00:15:30.919
<v Christian Graham>sure that you're not breaking your
configuration when you're pushing stuff</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4606-3
00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.039
<v Christian Graham>out.
And of course it's also the I forget what</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4606-4
00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:36.106
<v Christian Graham>the name of the feature is,
but it allows you to recover your Forti</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4606-5
00:15:36.106 --> 00:15:39.444
<v Christian Graham>gate if after like 5 minutes or 10
minutes if you push out something that</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4606-6
00:15:39.444 --> 00:15:40.571
<v Christian Graham>breaks your connectivity.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4636-0
00:15:40.851 --> 00:15:45.020
<v LeeAnn Larson>Yeah, I thought that they added the.
I'm not saying Juniper,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4636-1
00:15:45.020 --> 00:15:50.828
<v LeeAnn Larson>but adding the rollback feature like that
is so, so helpful. Sometimes it really is.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4636-2
00:15:50.828 --> 00:15:52.331
<v LeeAnn Larson>It can be a lifesaver.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4640-0
00:15:51.811 --> 00:15:55.491
<v Christian Graham>Yeah, it's not automatic.
Include any board manager I touch.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4699-0
00:15:56.171 --> 00:15:59.437
<v Kelly Young>Yeah,
I think it's like an auto restore feature</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4699-1
00:15:59.437 --> 00:16:03.042
<v Kelly Young>and yeah, it is absolutely awesome. And I,
you know,</v>
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00:16:03.042 --> 00:16:08.553
<v Kelly Young>I agree with you both 4D Manager and 4D
Analyzer Manager is a great tool and now</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4699-3
00:16:08.553 --> 00:16:13.995
<v Kelly Young>that it can scan in network diagrams and
then help with the scripting to deploy</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4699-4
00:16:13.995 --> 00:16:15.491
<v Kelly Young>that into the network.</v>
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00:16:15.771 --> 00:16:19.415
<v Kelly Young>It's amazing and of course for the
analyzer,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4732-1
00:16:19.415 --> 00:16:23.302
<v Kelly Young>it's been a workhorse for Fortinet for so
long.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4732-2
00:16:23.302 --> 00:16:27.999
<v Kelly Young>It's integrated in so many other products
that log to it,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4732-3
00:16:27.999 --> 00:16:32.371
<v Kelly Young>including a 40 web and EMS and things
like that, but.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4766-0
00:16:32.451 --> 00:16:37.521
<v Kelly Young>They also use it in in the SOC
automations and now I think there's a new</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4766-1
00:16:37.521 --> 00:16:41.826
<v Kelly Young>add-on service called Forti Tip that's
powered by Fortiguard.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4766-2
00:16:41.826 --> 00:16:47.104
<v Kelly Young>So that'll just anchor it more deeply
into the Fortinet security fabric for</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4766-3
00:16:47.104 --> 00:16:47.451
<v Kelly Young>sure.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4768-0
00:16:48.971 --> 00:16:49.051
<v Kelly Young>Um.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4816-0
00:16:49.651 --> 00:16:51.894
<v Christian Graham>Yeah,
40 Honors has always been a really</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4816-1
00:16:51.894 --> 00:16:54.957
<v Christian Graham>awesome product.
It's absolutely essential to every UFC</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4816-2
00:16:54.957 --> 00:16:58.075
<v Christian Graham>I've taken so far.
They've all had some aspect of threat</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4816-3
00:16:58.075 --> 00:17:02.396
<v Christian Graham>hunting and 40 Analyzer and making sure
that we really understand like how the</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4816-4
00:17:02.396 --> 00:17:06.717
<v Christian Graham>SOAR features work and how the incident
response and there is it's it's really</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4816-5
00:17:06.717 --> 00:17:09.451
<v Christian Graham>awesome.
I think people underutilize it for sure.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4870-0
00:17:10.051 --> 00:17:12.498
<v LeeAnn Larson>Oh,
I think Ford Analyzer is a taken for</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4870-1
00:17:12.498 --> 00:17:16.796
<v LeeAnn Larson>granted tool frequently as well.
It if you don't use it in the wild for</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4870-2
00:17:16.796 --> 00:17:20.854
<v LeeAnn Larson>threat hunting and stuff,
you don't know about its capabilities and</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4870-3
00:17:20.854 --> 00:17:24.137
<v LeeAnn Larson>you just kind of take it for granted that
it is there.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4870-4
00:17:24.137 --> 00:17:28.971
<v LeeAnn Larson>But it is such a neat tool to work with
when you get into it and under the hood.</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4932-0
00:17:29.091 --> 00:17:31.108
<v Christian Graham>Yeah,
I think Fort AI is really going to help</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4932-1
00:17:31.108 --> 00:17:33.518
<v Christian Graham>out with that.
I think the biggest problem is not that</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4932-2
00:17:33.518 --> 00:17:35.535
<v Christian Graham>these people don't want to use Fort
Analyzer,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4932-3
00:17:35.535 --> 00:17:39.129
<v Christian Graham>but we get into teams of three people who
have so much already on their plate and</v>
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<v Christian Graham>we're trying to help them out.
We set them up with Fort Analyzer,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>they get a couple of reports and that's
all they have time to really figure out</v>
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00:17:45.528 --> 00:17:48.771
<v Christian Graham>how to do in there. But with Fort AI,
you can organically ask a question.</v>
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00:17:48.851 --> 00:17:50.651
<v Christian Graham>to find out what's going on in your
network.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>It makes it much more accessible for sure.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah, I I totally agree.
And the integration with the fabric with</v>
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00:17:58.045 --> 00:18:01.886
<v Kelly Young>all the other products, right,
40 EDR and the sandbox and everything</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/4986-2
00:18:01.886 --> 00:18:04.836
<v Kelly Young>else, you know,
they all all tie back to Fortiguard.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>That's where the the heartbeat of the
company is. But yeah,</v>
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00:18:08.176 --> 00:18:11.126
<v Kelly Young>it's just a great product.
Their whole product line,</v>
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00:18:11.126 --> 00:18:12.851
<v Kelly Young>the integrations are fantastic.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah,
I think AI is is going to be more heavily</v>
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00:18:16.614 --> 00:18:19.649
<v Kelly Young>used.
They've got 40 AI protect now for</v>
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00:18:19.649 --> 00:18:24.960
<v Kelly Young>products like Forti guard services,
the Forti gate, the NDR, the web,</v>
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00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:31.106
<v Kelly Young>and then they've got the 40 AI assist to
do automated sock and knock stuff tying</v>
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00:18:31.106 --> 00:18:32.851
<v Kelly Young>into analyzer managers.</v>
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00:18:32.971 --> 00:18:40.091
<v Kelly Young>SIM and SOAR 40 A I OPS and down the list
the NDR and even now.</v>
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00:18:37.971 --> 00:18:42.421
<v LeeAnn Larson>I say it even as far as you know,
it ties into lace work at this point for</v>
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00:18:42.421 --> 00:18:43.251
<v LeeAnn Larson>the scene app.</v>
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00:18:43.211 --> 00:18:46.555
<v Kelly Young>Yeah,
you took the words right out of my mouth.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>That's exactly right. And then lastly,
they have the 40 AI Secure AI.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Really it ties into some of the similar
products, the FortiGate,</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/5097-3
00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:59.931
<v Kelly Young>the FortiGuard AI and the DLP piece and
scene app again.</v>
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00:19:00.491 --> 00:19:05.531
<v Kelly Young>And Universal's ETNA and 40 web.
So definitely a lot of it, yeah.</v>
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00:19:04.091 --> 00:19:09.225
<v LeeAnn Larson>And I like the Secure A I because it ties
into a axe I've been grinding kind of</v>
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00:19:09.225 --> 00:19:13.974
<v LeeAnn Larson>hard on A I governance and how our data
inside our LLMs and our models is</v>
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00:19:13.974 --> 00:19:16.925
<v LeeAnn Larson>actually governed and controlled and
secured.</v>
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00:19:16.925 --> 00:19:20.583
<v LeeAnn Larson>And the Fortis Secure A I actually
secures your systems,</v>
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00:19:20.583 --> 00:19:22.251
<v LeeAnn Larson>models and infrastructure.</v>
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00:19:22.611 --> 00:19:25.553
<v LeeAnn Larson>So it keeps that data inside and it
doesn't leak out,</v>
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00:19:25.553 --> 00:19:30.074
<v LeeAnn Larson>which I think is absolutely wonderful and
a step definitely in the right direction</v>
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00:19:30.074 --> 00:19:33.833
<v LeeAnn Larson>for people who aren't just,
they don't know they have to comply with</v>
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00:19:33.833 --> 00:19:36.284
<v LeeAnn Larson>it, but security is a priority.
So you know,</v>
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00:19:36.284 --> 00:19:39.171
<v LeeAnn Larson>it kind of sneaks that in there while
securing them.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Absolutely.
And I think for the DLP is going to be a</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah.</v>
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00:19:42.915 --> 00:19:46.066
<v Christian Graham>huge part of that.
We've rolled it out for the actually the</v>
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00:19:46.066 --> 00:19:48.902
<v Christian Graham>same customer that did the huge Sassy
implementation,</v>
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00:19:48.902 --> 00:19:51.527
<v Christian Graham>but I just watched a demo for it and it's
really,</v>
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00:19:51.527 --> 00:19:55.676
<v Christian Graham>really incredible on how it's able to
kind of track files as they move through</v>
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00:19:55.676 --> 00:19:56.411
<v Christian Graham>your computer.</v>
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00:19:56.931 --> 00:20:00.884
<v Christian Graham>It can track that you zip something or
unzip something.</v>
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00:20:00.884 --> 00:20:06.673
<v Christian Graham>One of the cool things we saw in the demo
was ChatGPT was like an approved AI for</v>
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00:20:06.673 --> 00:20:12.531
<v Christian Graham>this model and so the guy was able to ask
questions, upload files to it, but then.</v>
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00:20:12.691 --> 00:20:17.029
<v Christian Graham>He went to Gemini and tried to ask it the
same questions and paste in some some</v>
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00:20:17.029 --> 00:20:21.420
<v Christian Graham>dummy code and when he tried to upload
the code he got a big warning. He's like,</v>
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00:20:21.420 --> 00:20:25.378
<v Christian Graham>Are you sure you want to do this?
This isn't an approved AI and so it it</v>
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00:20:25.378 --> 00:20:25.811
<v Christian Graham>kind of.</v>
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00:20:25.851 --> 00:20:28.870
<v Christian Graham>Hand holds your end users a little bit.
It's like it's not calling them stupid</v>
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00:20:28.870 --> 00:20:31.888
<v Christian Graham>and just saying, hey, you can't do this,
this isn't what you're supposed to be</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/5337-2
00:20:31.888 --> 00:20:34.524
<v Christian Graham>doing. But at the same time,
it kind of gives them that beat to stop</v>
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00:20:34.524 --> 00:20:36.931
<v Christian Graham>and think for a second.
Is this something you should be doing?</v>
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00:20:38.771 --> 00:20:43.552
<v Kelly Young>Yeah, I mean these tools are fantastic.
And what I used to see in the in the</v>
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00:20:43.552 --> 00:20:47.587
<v Kelly Young>customers I dealt with sometimes they
would, you know, say, hey,</v>
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00:20:47.587 --> 00:20:51.126
<v Kelly Young>you know what I I've only got, you know,
10 Forti gates.</v>
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00:20:51.126 --> 00:20:55.286
<v Kelly Young>I don't think I really need 40 manager or
you know, we've already,</v>
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00:20:55.286 --> 00:20:56.651
<v Kelly Young>we already have a SIM.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>We don't really want to invest in 40
Analyzer, but at the end of the day,</v>
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00:21:01.145 --> 00:21:05.405
<v Kelly Young>the integrations and the ties back into
some of the stuff we discussed in 40</v>
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00:21:05.405 --> 00:21:08.503
<v Kelly Young>Guard Labs, it's well worth it. I mean,
it's, you know,</v>
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00:21:08.503 --> 00:21:12.486
<v Kelly Young>pennies on the dollar if you ask me,
but to to have these tools in your</v>
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00:21:12.486 --> 00:21:13.371
<v Kelly Young>environment, so.</v>
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00:21:13.451 --> 00:21:17.009
<v Kelly Young>Well, great.
So one of the last things I wanted to</v>
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<v Kelly Young>cover was just briefly a little bit of OT
and I think OT networks and the</v>
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00:21:22.170 --> 00:21:25.728
<v Kelly Young>applications,
I mean OT touches so many verticals,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>but it wasn't called OT back in the day.
It was just, you know,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I've got this back end network that does.</v>
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00:21:33.131 --> 00:21:38.305
<v Kelly Young>Doesn't really touch the other IT network
where my workstations are.</v>
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00:21:38.305 --> 00:21:43.328
<v Kelly Young>And it used to be that this stuff was
segmented from the Internet,</v>
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00:21:43.328 --> 00:21:47.752
<v Kelly Young>but not anymore.
I think OT is now in the cloud and coming</v>
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00:21:47.752 --> 00:21:50.451
<v Kelly Young>to the data center AKA OTDMZ, right?</v>
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00:21:50.931 --> 00:21:58.354
<v Kelly Young>So Fortinet has really enhanced their
platforms to support OT with protocols</v>
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00:21:58.354 --> 00:22:05.295
<v Kelly Young>and you know hardened models.
For example they have I believe it's 3300</v>
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00:22:05.295 --> 00:22:10.211
<v Kelly Young>and growing OT protocol rules and and and
over or.</v>
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00:22:09.291 --> 00:22:12.611
<v LeeAnn Larson>More than that. Yeah, more than that.</v>
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00:22:09.651 --> 00:22:09.731
<v Christian Graham>It.</v>
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00:22:10.451 --> 00:22:14.065
<v Kelly Young>Yeah, there you go.
And and there was at the time I last</v>
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00:22:14.065 --> 00:22:17.234
<v Kelly Young>checked,
there were like 750 IPS rules that could</v>
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00:22:17.234 --> 00:22:20.023
<v Kelly Young>be applied.
I mean that's that's one thing.</v>
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00:22:17.371 --> 00:22:18.211
<v LeeAnn Larson>Mhm.</v>
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00:22:20.023 --> 00:22:23.066
<v Kelly Young>But then you add in virtual patching,
you know,</v>
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00:22:23.066 --> 00:22:28.010
<v Kelly Young>like based on the Mac of the device to
protect it until it can get, you know,</v>
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00:22:28.010 --> 00:22:29.531
<v Kelly Young>we all know OT networks.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Actual patching deployed. Yeah,
I'm going to like interrupt you here on</v>
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00:22:31.411 --> 00:22:31.531
<v Kelly Young>OK.</v>
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00:22:32.679 --> 00:22:37.273
<v LeeAnn Larson>that one because virtual patching is such
a cool technology and kind of how it</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>works is you have little programmable
logic controllers that you know, Rockwell,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Siemens,
whatever that were built back in the day</v>
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00:22:44.892 --> 00:22:47.451
<v LeeAnn Larson>and you can't necessarily drop a hot
patch.</v>
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00:22:48.491 --> 00:22:53.262
<v LeeAnn Larson>On say a for a lumber cutting company,
you can't drop a hot patch on a machine</v>
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00:22:53.262 --> 00:22:57.550
<v LeeAnn Larson>in the field or in a factory,
and they deploy these signatures to stop</v>
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00:22:57.550 --> 00:23:02.320
<v LeeAnn Larson>the vulnerabilities from being exploited
until you can get the patch in place.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>And I think that is so neat.</v>
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00:23:04.091 --> 00:23:08.505
<v LeeAnn Larson>That they worked hand in hand with all of
these people who actually built the</v>
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00:23:08.505 --> 00:23:12.635
<v LeeAnn Larson>technology over there. The OT guys,
I know a lot of them actually helped</v>
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00:23:12.635 --> 00:23:15.011
<v LeeAnn Larson>develop the technology they're protecting.</v>
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00:23:16.171 --> 00:23:17.811
<v Christian Graham>Absolutely.</v>
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00:23:16.211 --> 00:23:19.986
<v Kelly Young>Yeah, I mean, that's fantastic. Yeah.
I mean, I'm, I'm sorry, Christian,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>OK. Sorry, Kelly.</v>
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00:23:19.986 --> 00:23:20.451
<v Kelly Young>go ahead.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah, no, I was just gonna add on.
It's like the OT aspect of Fortinet is</v>
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00:23:25.780 --> 00:23:29.568
<v Christian Graham>incredible.
I have a very strong memory of the first</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/5803-2
00:23:29.568 --> 00:23:33.856
<v Christian Graham>experts I went to.
I did a OT lab and the guy just had kind</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/5803-3
00:23:33.856 --> 00:23:39.646
<v Christian Graham>of like this almost stoplight system set
up where he had some LEDs and they were</v>
0e72bea2-3d2f-4448-9834-593e9b3fbd94/5803-4
00:23:39.646 --> 00:23:39.931
<v Christian Graham>all.</v>
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00:23:40.171 --> 00:23:43.729
<v Christian Graham>Controlled by Modbus,
but he's actually able to like get in</v>
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00:23:43.729 --> 00:23:48.471
<v Christian Graham>between the protocol and stop specific
commands from being sent out and kind of</v>
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00:23:48.471 --> 00:23:53.451
<v Christian Graham>like get really granular with it and say,
well this user can run these commands and</v>
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<v Christian Graham>this user can run these others,
but nobody can run these commands and you</v>
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<v Christian Graham>could get really down in the dirt and.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Flushed that out a lot,
and Fortinet actually does a lot to</v>
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<v Christian Graham>develop more protocols.
So if there's something that's not really</v>
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<v Christian Graham>covered already,
they're very excited to get more</v>
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<v Christian Graham>protocols and suites covered.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Yeah, Christian,
we saw the same blinky box and that</v>
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<v Kelly Young>That's.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>actually the same workshop,
possibly a different day was the whole</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>reason that, you know,
I even know what the Purdue model is and</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>I got super interested in OT technology.
So yeah,</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>they're they have amazing folks over
there on that.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Yeah.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Hey, that's that's fantastic.
I mean you add to it the the models,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>you've got ruggedized switches, you know,
ruggedized 40 gates.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>You even have a 40 extender like the 511
G if you need to put it on your fleet</v>
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<v Kelly Young>vehicle or something like that.
So they have a full array of products to</v>
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<v Kelly Young>support, you know, the OT world and.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>And protecting it so.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I You know what?
I think we're coming up on the end of our</v>
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<v Kelly Young>time here for today.
Was there any other thing I forgot that</v>
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<v Kelly Young>we mentioned we were gonna discuss?</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Yeah, wait,
I don't know about Ford SRA there.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>No.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>So it's just a really cool product.
It's kind of in the same vein as Ford or</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Pam, if you've already heard of that.
But one of the coolest parts about it is</v>
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<v Christian Graham>just being able to audit access into your
environment,</v>
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<v Christian Graham>which is huge in OT because a lot of
these.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Resources that you've got out there,
they're controlled by a vendor.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>The vendor's the only person that even
knows how the system works to be able to</v>
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<v Christian Graham>support it with Ford SRA in there.
You can record everything they're doing</v>
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<v Christian Graham>and a lot like I was talking about with
the Modbus support on the OT application</v>
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<v Christian Graham>signatures.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Is you can filter out specific commands.
You can say you need approval to get into</v>
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<v Christian Graham>the system.
You can do so many cool things with it</v>
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<v Christian Graham>and it ties in with like ZTNA and Sassy
and even like 4D Analyzer.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>You can tie all these things back in
there and you've got that single pane of</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Mhm.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>glass.
You know what's going on everywhere.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Thank you so much.
I completely was going right past that</v>
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<v Kelly Young>and that's a key part of the OT, you know,
remote access.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>So thank you for reminding me there.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Yeah,
the Ford SRA has come a long way since</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>its first deployment to it. It's really,
really gotten interesting.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Well,
we'll see how much longer people are</v>
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<v Kelly Young>using VPNs if, you know,
ZTNA doesn't just take over the whole</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Tokens for all.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>world. And you know, yeah,
I guess SSL is kind of slowly fading away.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>We're gonna be using IP SEC, I so.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Hopefully.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>Yeah, yeah. Well, hey, thank you both.
I'd like to thank you for, you know,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>coming on Christian from Liquid Networks
and our own Leanne Larson for joining us</v>
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<v Kelly Young>today.
We'd like to thank our listeners and hope</v>
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<v Kelly Young>you found this session informative and
helpful. And you know,</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I just want to remind everyone that at
Zentegra we're here.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>To help you and work.
We work with the best products and</v>
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<v Kelly Young>partners in the network and security
industry. Thank you so much.</v>
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<v Christian Graham>Thanks guys.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Thanks all.</v>
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<v Kelly Young>I don't know how to stop the recording.</v>
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<v LeeAnn Larson>Now we're testing Chase's edit skills.</v>